Jonnie and Todd, the Gilliom Bros. - Christmas in the 1970s.
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Showing posts with label Gilliomville. Show all posts
Tuesday, September 6, 2022
Dreaming of a Plaid Christmas
Labels:
1970s,
christmas,
Gill Bros.,
Gilliomville,
Indiana,
plaid
Wednesday, September 15, 2021
R.I.P. Jon L. Gilliom: Jan. 5, 1948 – Sep. 7, 2021
It’s been quite a week and I’m sad to say my father, Jon Sr, isn’t with us anymore. “Uncle Jon” was a lion-heart who loved adventure and family, and I know he will be missed by many.
(Photo: Columbia, MO; Aug. 2017).
Saturday, June 20, 2020
On the Frank Farm: Secret Features
One of the old, unused sheds on the Frank Farm is the home of a peculiar masterpiece, a tree that has slowly been growing through a chair over the years, as if time itself has been politely waiting for nature to finish its work.
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Secret Feature @ the Frank Farm. |
Tuesday, June 16, 2020
Jon Sr.'s Piranha Log
In the early 2000s, my father, Jon Sr., was living in Alaska and decided to keep a tank of piranhas. He named them all “Killer” and regularly posted updates about them on our family website, Gilliomville. What follows is a kind of Piranha Chronicles—a compilation of all the piranha-related posts from Gilliomville’s message board:
I now have 5 piranhas in my 75
gallon aquarium. They are about one and a half inches long and, for the next
month, will eat flake food. I did put a little guppy in with them and they
chased him around, nipping at him. I haven't seen the guppy for a couple days.
I guess maybe he was ganged-up on during the night.
Do piranhas snap into Slim Jims?
Ross, My alpha piranha eats even
when he is not hungry. He just eats because he wants to remain the lead dog
where the scenery always changes. I predict that within six months, he will be
able to jerk a slim jim from one’s hand.
Fish tank report!! Piranhas all 5
are doing fine. I put three catfish in with them last week-end. The fish store
person said the catfish were a fast growing type. She said that since the
piranhas were small, that maybe the catfish could get some growth and possibly
be tank mates. Situation looking pretty grave--one catfish appears alive and
doing well, one catfish dead and one catfish missing.
Tank update!!! Two catfish dead and
third still missing, which at this time is presumed to be dead. Killer is
primary suspect, as the stalker. He did not come out to eat this A.M. He later
made an appearance and seemed fine and probably full from his dark hours of
evil doing. I will go to the fish store this week-end for ideas on
possibilities for bottom cleaning. The catfish ended up adding to the waste
problem. Maybe a turtle or snail is a possibility. Maybe a huge catfish. More
updates as events evolve.
Tank update!! The remainder of the
third and missing catfish has been recovered. It is fortunate, that he was the
third and missing because the remains otherwise would not have been
identifiable. I must get to the fish store!!
I think you should set up a Web cam
on that tank. The pictures could be used as evidence against Killer.
Piranha tank update!! I talked with
Josh, the manager of House of Critters, and explained my dilemma of no bottom
feeder. I asked him about turtles and snails. He said that they would probably
mess with anything they knew was alive. He said a snail might work if the piranhas
thought it was a rock, but if they figured out it was not, they would probably
mess with it. He said a sail is uni-sex and could stand a chance of
overpopulating my tank. He suggested an electric catfish about three inches
long for $29.95. He said the piranhas would mess with it only once. Josh said,
the electric catfish stalks a small feeder goldfish within about two inches and
then stops and lets out an electrical charge. The feeder fish is said to start
floating to the top after receiving the charge and then is devoured by the
catfish. It sounds like some high drama stuff for $29.95.
Electric catfish! Yeah, get one.
For thirty bucks, I hope Josh knows what he's talking about. Will the piranha
be safe from the catfish? It's turning into some kind of House of Eerie, all
these villainous fish, like monsters.
Yesterday I found two feeder goldfish
on my carpet. The fish were like two and three feet from the piranha tank. I
think they did hari cari to get away from Killer.
My piranhas are growing so fast. I
am afraid to put my hand in the tank. I think I am going to do like George
Foreman, when he named his boys. He named them all George. They were George 1,
George 2, George 3, etc. I am going to name my piranhas, Killer 1, Killer 2,
Killer 3, Killer 4, and the last one I named Runt.
Man, I can't believe these killer
fish!! When I feed them floating food, they splash water all over the top of
the aquarium and sometimes on the floor.
When this box of food is gone I
think I am not going to buy any more floating food. The one feeder fish of
twenty five is still alive. He swims right around with the killers and Runt. I
think they have adopted him. Maybe I'll let them get real hungry and see if
they still like him.
Labels:
2000s,
Alaska,
Gilliomville,
piranhas
Location:
Anchorage, AK, USA
Tuesday, June 9, 2020
Dick the Bruiser
Dick the Bruiser was a famous regional wrestler in the late 1970s and early 1980s, before the WWF bought out all the regional wrestling districts and brought them under one corporate umbrella.
As Hulk Hogan began appearing everywhere, the old-timers, like Dick the Bruiser, were relegated to wrestling in small-town high school gyms.
That’s how we had the chance to meet him in the late 1980s:
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Meeting the legendary Dick the Bruiser. |
Dick the Bruiser was a huge deal in the Midwest, and it was both a mixed blessing and a tragedy to see him wrestling in a small Indiana high school gym after the WWF effectively left him jobless.
Gilliomville Message Board commentary on Dick the Bruiser:
Remember when we went to that wrastlin' match at the Fort Wayne Coliseum when we were little kids? That was when Dick the Bruiser was a regional celebrity and his fights were still on TV, right before WWF took over everything.
I remember during one of the matches, someone tried to sneak a blackjack into the ring. I had never even heard of one before. Uncles Jon and Rick had to explain what it was. It was a few years later before I figured out the whole thing was part of the show.
It was Dick the Bruiser that got smacked with the blackjack. After the show the fans just swarmed him, and we got close enough to Dick the Bruiser to see these little marks the blackjack left all over him. That made me think it was real.
There was also a guy carrying around a HUGE bone. That was Leon Redbone! He'd jump of the corner rungs and smack people with that big bone. Then a guy from the audience went after Leon's red bone. I thought he was an old man, and I remember him kind of hunched forward pointing, and he kept saying, "He's got the stick. He's got the stick." I'm not sure that was part of the show or not.
In the late 1980s, Dick the Bruiser was still wrestling, but the show was in our high school gymnasium, instead of on TV. In the heyday of professional wrestling, poor Bruiser was wrestling at high schools! It makes me sick.
Hulk Hogan ruined Dick the Bruiser. But still, I bet he could have joined on with WWF if he would have wanted to. Why do you think he didn't?
About 5 years ago I was reading an interview with some old wrestler who was doing a guest referee stint for the WWF. An interviewer asked him, "What was the worst thing you had to smell during your career as a professional wrestler?" His answer: "Dick the Bruiser". I thought that was a pretty strong statement considering I hadn't seen Dick the Bruiser's name in print since I was a kid at one of his shows. Then here's this old timer who'd seen it all and the worst thing he'd smelled was Dick the Bruiser? Come on! I think he had it in for him. He couldn't have smelt THAT bad!
I just heard a great story about Dick the Bruiser. The Bruiser lived in a pretty nice neighborhood and liked to stir things up. Sometimes when he came home drunk, he liked to put on one of his wife's dresses and wigs and get on his motorcycle and tear through people's yards in the middle of the night. Supposedly, no one ever complained or called the police. Maybe the skid marks Dick left on people's sidewalks added to the value of their property.
Remember when we went to that wrastlin' match at the Fort Wayne Coliseum when we were little kids? That was when Dick the Bruiser was a regional celebrity and his fights were still on TV, right before WWF took over everything.
I remember during one of the matches, someone tried to sneak a blackjack into the ring. I had never even heard of one before. Uncles Jon and Rick had to explain what it was. It was a few years later before I figured out the whole thing was part of the show.
It was Dick the Bruiser that got smacked with the blackjack. After the show the fans just swarmed him, and we got close enough to Dick the Bruiser to see these little marks the blackjack left all over him. That made me think it was real.
There was also a guy carrying around a HUGE bone. That was Leon Redbone! He'd jump of the corner rungs and smack people with that big bone. Then a guy from the audience went after Leon's red bone. I thought he was an old man, and I remember him kind of hunched forward pointing, and he kept saying, "He's got the stick. He's got the stick." I'm not sure that was part of the show or not.
In the late 1980s, Dick the Bruiser was still wrestling, but the show was in our high school gymnasium, instead of on TV. In the heyday of professional wrestling, poor Bruiser was wrestling at high schools! It makes me sick.
Hulk Hogan ruined Dick the Bruiser. But still, I bet he could have joined on with WWF if he would have wanted to. Why do you think he didn't?
About 5 years ago I was reading an interview with some old wrestler who was doing a guest referee stint for the WWF. An interviewer asked him, "What was the worst thing you had to smell during your career as a professional wrestler?" His answer: "Dick the Bruiser". I thought that was a pretty strong statement considering I hadn't seen Dick the Bruiser's name in print since I was a kid at one of his shows. Then here's this old timer who'd seen it all and the worst thing he'd smelled was Dick the Bruiser? Come on! I think he had it in for him. He couldn't have smelt THAT bad!
I just heard a great story about Dick the Bruiser. The Bruiser lived in a pretty nice neighborhood and liked to stir things up. Sometimes when he came home drunk, he liked to put on one of his wife's dresses and wigs and get on his motorcycle and tear through people's yards in the middle of the night. Supposedly, no one ever complained or called the police. Maybe the skid marks Dick left on people's sidewalks added to the value of their property.
Labels:
1980s,
Gill Bros.,
Gilliomville,
Indiana,
people,
wrestling
Location:
Columbia City, IN 46725, USA
Monday, June 8, 2020
G-ville Message Board Posts
[Compiled from Gilliomville message board posts, contributed by various Gillioms and Franks]:
A perfect Gilliom birthday would involve blowing up the microwave while cooking something.
Here is the rules from now on:
1. No Wild Turkey before posting on
Gilliomville.
2. Watch what you say because everyone is reading.
3. Get plenty of sleep on work nights.
4. Eat right.
5. Exercise often.
6. Vote.
2. Watch what you say because everyone is reading.
3. Get plenty of sleep on work nights.
4. Eat right.
5. Exercise often.
6. Vote.
I miss mooning people, it's been too long.
Boy, the women just can't stand it when we're happy, can they?
Boy, the women just can't stand it when we're happy, can they?
Todd, I had no idea you were so
informed on pine trees!!
I want to get to the point to where
I could punch out a mean dog.
Then I could walk around pretty confidently.
Then I could walk around pretty confidently.
Looking back through my life, it sure seems
like the people who are quick to tell you they have it all figured out, sure
fall hard.
I can't believe
I took my yard for granted for so many years. It's the only thing in my life I
have control over.
In 1990, I shot Brian Clark in the
arm. The B.B was surgically removed from his Deltoid.
While cleaning and organizing the
house, we came across a whole bunch of useless keys. We tossed them all into
one container. Now, as a joke, when we have guests and we just don't want them
to leave, we're going to toss their keys into that container; then they'll have to sort through them all to find the
correct one. It won't be funny if it happens to you, so make sure you
know your keys before visiting.
When we lived out at the lake, Dad
taught me and Todd how to tape firecrackers and sparklers to arrows, light the fuses,
then shoot the arrow really high up in the air where it would explode. That was
really fun. I would also emulate a panel from a Green Arrow comic and lay on my
back, holding the bow up with my feet. You could pull the string back really
far with both hands and your full body weight. The arrow would go so far up in
the sky, you would lose sight of it.
Jonnie,
tell me if this brings back memories: I
was looking at my senior yearbook and you wrote, "Well, I might not be
finishing up my senior year with you if this whole fire alarm thing doesn't
blow over." Those were some wild times.
I
remember Dad being really worried that they wanted to kick Jonnie out of school
and he couldn’t afford a lawyer.
The bathroom in the Craigville
house had a door that led to the roof of the garage. One day, Adam got out on
the roof and jumped off. It was like jumping off of a one story house and it
didn't even phase him. Abby has told me she remembers jumping off also.
Tuesday, June 2, 2020
Old Isaac Gilliom (by Todd)
Old Isaac Gilliom
Fine young man
Went to Vera Cruz
from Switzer-Lan'
Quick as a whip
he went Apostolic
just as quick
might been alcoholic
Oh Isaac Gilliom!
- Todd
[From the Gilliomville Message Board]
Labels:
family,
Gilliomville,
history,
poetry
Location:
Indiana, USA
Monday, June 1, 2020
G-ville Timeline
Oct. 10, 2001
- Quicktopic
Message Board
The idea for an online message board
came about shortly after Todd and Amanda’s wedding in late 2001. It seemed like
a great way for our geographically dispersed family to stay in touch without
exerting too much effort or expense.
Nick is the one who gave Gilliomville its name via AOL Instant Messenger
when I was setting up the original message board and couldn’t think of anything
to call it. He suggested, “Why not
Gilliomville”? Sounded good to me,
and the name stuck.
The message board was much more of
a hit than anybody expected. Soon Gillioms and Franks were posting to it pretty
regularly from Indiana, Texas, Arizona, California, and Alaska.
Before long, there was talk of
establishing a normal website where we could post photographs and be able to reach
the message board with a simple mouse click.
In early 2002, I started archiving
the message board posts in case we ever lost the Quicktopic site. I still have
most of the archives, though two pages (part of December, 2001 and part of
February 2002, I think) were corrupted and the information is no longer
viewable. I tried to revisit these pages through the Quicktopic site, but they
only save a limited number of posts (going back to 2004 as of last month). It’s
possible the lost posts could be accessed by a paid membership, but I’m not
willing to pay the $49 membership fee to find out.
Dec. 17, 2001 - Original Gilliomville Website
The first Gilliomville page was set
up on a free Tripod account. It had the Gilliomville logo, a
link to the message board, a list of Gilliom/Frank birthdays (compiled by Nancy
Frank) and a Link of the Week. The
first link of the week was a Fraser Fir Christmas Tree website in response to
an ongoing message board discussion at the time. The idea of, “safety needles”
really captured my imagination. I think the first full photo gallery was Todd
and Amanda’s wedding gallery.
Gilliomville started growing from
there, though we were limited by the Tripod account’s skimpy amount of free server
space. We basically had a FAQ page and, eventually, a few photo galleries.
April, 2002 – Gilliomville.com
Gilliomville proper went into effect when we
purchased the Gilliomville.com
domain and some server space which was paid for by Uncle Jon and reimbursed by
contributions from the Gillioms and Franks.
Gilliomville.com grew
pretty big for its britches as we added all kinds of bells and whistles –
extensive photo galleries, survey pages, and I don’t remember what all. It became
a pretty high maintenance endeavor, but I had some time on my hands in those
days. It actually kept me out of trouble by giving me something productive to occupy
my time through some pretty sketchy times.
By
this time, I was living in Los Angeles and had a stable address for the first
time since late 1999. I left a lot of personal items in Uncle Jon’s garage when
I left Alaska for Las Vegas at the end of 1999 and now these items started
trickling back to me. I also acquired a scanner, so family photographs began to
appear in the extensive Gilliomville galleries.
December, 2006 - Messageboard “Upgrade”
By 2006, Gilliomville was running
on server space provided at a substantial discount by an acquaintance from The Real World…Blogger Style! who also
provided quite a bit of additional software options. In an attempt to make the message
board more up-to-date and versatile, I installed a more powerful message board
program which ran on our own server. The new message board included individual
avatars, the ability to hotlink images inside posts, and all kinds of extra
features.
The new message board met with
quite a bit of resistance from the Gilliomville community. People didn’t like
the logon process and some would-be participants experienced difficulty
accessing the new board. I ran a poll asking what people thought of the new
message board and only received one response, from cousin Nick Frank, stating, “It
sucks.” So, by popular demand, I brought back the original Quicktopic message board.
For a time, both boards were accessible from the main Gilliomville page, but Quicktopic
was the clear favorite.
May, 2007 - Gilliomville.org
Due to a dispute with the
irreputable Domain Registry of America,
I allowed Gilliomville.com to
expire in 2007. I purchased the Gilliomville.org
domain for less than half what I was paying for Gilliomville.com (which wasn’t much, but it was the principle
that companies shouldn’t price gouge domain names).
Also, at this time, the acquaintance who was providing
our generous amount of discounted server space went into a different business
altogether, so I purchase commercial server space. To keep costs down (and
since I no longer had a lot of extra time on my hands), Gilliomville.org became a much leaner, low-maintenance website. I
dropped the bulky photo galleries and most of the fluff, keeping Gilliomville
confined to one page with links to the original Quicktopic Messageboard and to a Flickr account where a selection of Gilliomville photographs were
stored.
[From "I Left My Heart in Gilliomville," 2008]
Saturday, May 23, 2020
Gill-Frank Road Trips
[Compiled from various posts on the Gilliomville message board, contributed by various Gillioms and Franks]:
Remember Nick asking us, “Do you wanna eat at King's Island (spoken in a joyful tone of voice) or Pearl's Diner (spoken in a tone of disgust)”?
Remember Nick asking us, “Do you wanna eat at King's Island (spoken in a joyful tone of voice) or Pearl's Diner (spoken in a tone of disgust)”?
Pearl's
Diner is a great
memory. Now that I am a man and no longer a child, I would much rather eat at a
diner that at an amusement park. I think my true motivation was to try to get
to the park as early as possible so I could be one of the first people on the Beast or whatever the big roller coaster
was back then.
I can
just imagine the parents tallying up the breakfast bill. Do we wanna fill up at
a reasonable diner with free coffee refills, or load up on snack foods at five
times the regular price?
We met a girl at a party who was
from Richmond , IN. She was familiar with all the rides at King's Island and Cedar Point, and she seemed to prefer King's Island. She called me "old school" when I mentioned
the Screamin' Demon. Man, it was fun
to go there.
Do you remember the trip to Michigan ? I remember staying in some cheap cabins and
Jonnie climbed up the lattice work on the front of the office. I do not have
one other memory of the whole trip.
I remember car problems at a grumpy
guy's campground we called Crazy
Gukenheimer and the sun shining as we boarded a big boat.
Crazy
Gukenheimer was the
man who rented us our cabins. Herb remembers when we stopped to see if there
was a vacancy, there was an old woman in the office. She wrote a note and put
it in the mouth of a large dog. She told the dog to go find Daddy and he took
off to find the man that Jon and Herb later called Crazy Gukenheimer. Pretty soon the guy came. He had been fishing
down at the lake behind the cabins. By that time, Jonnie had climbed up the
lattice work of the office. We spent the night there and I remember you four
boys were going all directions.
I remember the boat ride too, but I
didn't understand where we were going or why we were on it. I thought it was
magnificent. I also remember being terrified of the haunted house, and waiting
with some of the adult women while Jonnie and either Nick or Ross went inside
with my Dad, I think. I was terrified that Jonnie wouldn't survive to come back
out again. There were pictures on the outside of devilish horrors I didn't
understand -- and that made them REALLY scary, because Jonnie and I imagined
the worst possibilities of what was going on in there.
I remember being terrified in that
haunted house! Dad was carrying me by
the end of it. One monster jumped out
and scared the crap out of me – I started crying and the monster goes, “I was
just kidding, little kid”.
The island we visited was Mackinaw. We took a ferry over and
rented horse drawn carriages to see the island. There are no cars on the
island. Most of us have been there several times. It is a nice short trip from Indiana .
Do you boys remember getting pigs
in a blanket at IHOP and putting every kind of syrup at the table?
Saturday, May 16, 2020
Forward to G-ville
Forward to I Left My Heart in Gilliomville
By Donald Kilbuck
I could laugh and sometimes put on my shades and cry for all it's worth and be mad for just a little while and wonder if it's my eyes with my scope on Gilliomville.org and other ends of the earth that may clown me into laughter much for thoughts that aren't all into focus butt tasty places to chop the foods that people eat. u r what u eat.
By Donald Kilbuck
I could laugh and sometimes put on my shades and cry for all it's worth and be mad for just a little while and wonder if it's my eyes with my scope on Gilliomville.org and other ends of the earth that may clown me into laughter much for thoughts that aren't all into focus butt tasty places to chop the foods that people eat. u r what u eat.
I'm getting hungery and i only had
coffee this morning. I will go rake Harold's lawn about 1:00 PM and bring along
something to eat from Costco: a burned
Chicken for $5.99. Good price for a cooked chick.
[From
"I Left My Heart in Gilliomville," 2008]
Editor's Introduction

By Jonnie
For the most part, this volume’s
text was taken directly from posts made to the Gilliomville Message Board between Oct. 2001 and Oct. 2008 – W’s post-9-11 years. In some cases, the text
was not always copied verbatim. Some things have been altered slightly in the
interest of conciseness or clarity. I also paraphrased occasionally and followed
most spell-check recommendations when appropriate or if funny and/or interesting.
Some of the text is original to
this document. My father (“Uncle Jon”) and Uncle Rick’s ex-wife, Deb, provided
some really good stories which fit the spirit of this publication, even though
they did not formally appear on the original message board. I also added some
personal recollections when they complimented a particular discussion or line
of inquiry. I sometimes added editorial notes as well.
I related the story about me and
Nick getting kicked off the golf course from memory because its original discussion
on the Messageboard was fragmented and probably confusing to anybody who wasn’t
there.
It took some effort to make sense
of the multitude of random messageboard posts that have accumulated over the
years, but I think this book’s five sections provide a reasonable categorization
scheme.
[From "I Left My Heart in Gilliomville," 2008]
Labels:
family,
Gilliomville,
internets
Location:
Indiana, USA
A Valentine to Gilliomville
I was pondering what the real draw
of Gilliomville might be, for me at least, and stupid comparisons to tv
families aside, it is this:
You all seem to take real joy in one another, and in existence. And in barbecued meats.
But really, that's what got me--that you're this family that's by no means wholesome or bland, you're all funny and engaged in one another's lives to an extent that you built a website to stay in touch with one another.
This strikes me as amazing, poignant, admirable. Maybe this says more about me than any Gilliom out there. It probably does. But Gilliomville stands against the collective American mythology of the dysfunctional, suffocating American family and I for one find that fascinating, comforting, inspiring, even. And you do it without being insipid, cloying, conventional or square. There seems to be so much love, support, and respect passing back and forth. It made me want to call my far flung family and start up a similar arena.
I dunno. It seems like computer culture is a culture of alienation and capitalism, but this site shows it doesn't have to be; that there are other possibilities.
So you see, the Gillioms stand for something, and Gilliomville is a url of entertainment, free thinking and hope. Vicarious thrills aside, that is why I return ever and again.
So maybe you all aren't really great emblems, maybe I'm just a sad little voyeur, or maybe it's some of both, but--I dunno, you made something powerful. Bet you had no idea.
thanks
AmyJo
[From "I Left My Heart in Gilliomville," 2008]
You all seem to take real joy in one another, and in existence. And in barbecued meats.
But really, that's what got me--that you're this family that's by no means wholesome or bland, you're all funny and engaged in one another's lives to an extent that you built a website to stay in touch with one another.
This strikes me as amazing, poignant, admirable. Maybe this says more about me than any Gilliom out there. It probably does. But Gilliomville stands against the collective American mythology of the dysfunctional, suffocating American family and I for one find that fascinating, comforting, inspiring, even. And you do it without being insipid, cloying, conventional or square. There seems to be so much love, support, and respect passing back and forth. It made me want to call my far flung family and start up a similar arena.
I dunno. It seems like computer culture is a culture of alienation and capitalism, but this site shows it doesn't have to be; that there are other possibilities.
So you see, the Gillioms stand for something, and Gilliomville is a url of entertainment, free thinking and hope. Vicarious thrills aside, that is why I return ever and again.
So maybe you all aren't really great emblems, maybe I'm just a sad little voyeur, or maybe it's some of both, but--I dunno, you made something powerful. Bet you had no idea.
thanks
AmyJo
[From "I Left My Heart in Gilliomville," 2008]
Sunday, May 10, 2020
Seyfert's Potato Chips
[Compiled from various posts on the Gilliomville message board, contributed by various Gillioms and Franks]:
Seyfert's was the main chip in the Midwest .
Can you
still get Seyfert's potato chips in Missouri ? The Fort Wayne plant is apparently no more, but their main
office was in Missouri .
It sucks that all the little regional brands are disappearing.
In 1992 Adam and Abby wore red t-shirts
saying: "My DAD works at Seyfert's.”
I
remember Rick worked for Seyfert's! David Letterman featured Myrtle Young as a
guest a number of times in the late 1980s - she was an old lady who worked at the
Fort Wayne Seyfert's plant and would
save all the chips that looked like objects or celebrities. So, she would come on
Letterman and share different chips of note. Uncle Rick got me her autograph one
year and I still have it.
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Myrtle Young autograph. |
I never ate
Lays until they totally crowded Seyfert's out of business.
Seyfert's BBQ were the best BBQ chips around.
Location:
Indiana, USA
Wednesday, April 22, 2020
Gooey Looey
Still Life: Frog leg bone with a piece of gooey looey.
Courtesy of Ross Frank.
Courtesy of Ross Frank.
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Gooey Looey is what we called the sealant on one of Herb's grain silos.
We'd pick it off and play with it. Sometimes we'd chew on it for a spell.
We'd pick it off and play with it. Sometimes we'd chew on it for a spell.
Labels:
1970s,
childhood,
Gilliomville,
Indiana
Location:
Bluffton, IN 46714, USA
Friday, April 17, 2020
Foot Treatments (Reflexology)
As discussed on the Gilliomville message board:
Grandma Hazel always wanted to give foot massages, and they were ruff, she used to dig into my foot and crunch the arches, it felt like glass was breaking in my foot, grandma would say it was the crystals breaking, I would ask why there are crystals in my feet, and she responded it was from drinking too much pop.
She would always work out the "crystals.” She'd say it was unhealthy to let those "crystals" build up in your feet. There always was something kind of popping when she rubbed the foot though, I guess it was just muscle tension or something, but I believed her and imagined crystals were developing in my feet. I believed that as gospel for years until I realized I'd never heard anybody else talk about crystals in their feet. I don't know when I stopped believing in foot crystals, but I never actively disbelieved it. I just learned it was a weird topic that was best left undiscussed with my fellow school children.
After Hazel gave foot treatments, she would have the grandkids do her feet too haha - she knew we hated to do that, so she'd let us divide the work - one kid per foot. Then Todd and I would each only have to do one foot. It was pretty horrible though. She had gnarly toe nails.
Hazel called those foot massages, "foot treatments.” She practically considered it a medical procedure. She learned this from Saul the Amishman who sold vitamins, gave foot treatments, and was widely hailed as a miracle worker in the area. He would not charge anything for a consultation, though you would have to pay for any vitamins he prescribed.
Some days, Saul would work by appointment, but one day of the week was "first come, first serve.” Saul's Amish farm would be full of cars, sometimes people would come from outside the state to be diagnosed and treated by Saul. Grandma credited him with all kinds of miracles. My Dad had a recurring condition that kept returning despite the advice of a number of conventional doctors, but after he had Saul look at it, it was cured for good.
One year, Saul sold more vitamins from a particular company than anybody else in the country, so the vitamin company told him he won a free car. Since he was Amish though, he could not accept it; so they bought him a new buggy instead. Hazel said she saw the buggy and, "it was a really nice one.”
I remember Saul had a day of first come first serve. Mom said there was a guy that was there at 4:00 am and just slept in Saul's yard till he opened at 7:00 am. Jonnie, I remember the new buggy! That Saul sure could sell the vitamins!!
Saul (and Hazel) believed in the pseudoscience called Reflexology, though they never called it by that name. Reflexologists (and Hazel, and me as a child) believed that particular areas of the foot corresponded to other organs of the body and when that organ is experiencing problems, there is corresponding tension in that area of the foot. By massaging the tension out of a particular area of the foot, a person can make the corresponding organ healthier as well.
When Hazel was rubbing my feet and something would hurt, she'd say, "That's your kidneys"! I totally believed it as a kid, Hazel seemed to be so sure that's how it was and Saul was such an esteemed figure, it never crossed my mind they didn't know what they were talking about.
Reflexologists refer to diagrams or maps of the human foot with all the corresponding body parts written on it, so if somebody has tension in a certain part of the foot, you can find out which corresponding body is unhealthy. Some years ago, I was showing somebody one of these diagrams and it had everything - kidneys, liver, sinuses, head etc. marked. The only thing missing was the feet. We were laughing about that. Apparently, reflexologists don't account for troubled feet. If your foot hurts, it is always symptomatic of a different body part.
What a weird thing! And it seemed so normal to us to go to Grandma's and get foot treatments.
Grandma took me to see Saul once - He looked in my eyes with a magnifying glass and he could tell what vitamins or herbs your body needed. He would place a container of a particular herb or vitamin in your hand then ask you to stick the other arm straight out, then he would grab it like a lever, say "Resist me", and try to push it down. Then he would have you hold a different vitamin or herb and do the same thing. If a vitamin wouldn't help you resist him, he would not prescribe it, but if it gave you the strength to keep your arm up while he pushed against it, then that meant your body needed that one.
He told me I needed potassium and then Grandma added, "You should eat bananas every chance you get.” I think I left with about four different herbs he said I needed.
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Thursday, April 16, 2020
Grandma Hazel
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Grandma Hazel in 1990. |
When Uncle Jon was a kid, he and Grandma Hazel witnessed a bunch of Mexicans drive by in a tomato truck. Hazel told him to stay away from Mexicans, “because they carry knives.”
Grandma would let us buy Cracked and Crazy magazines,
but she thought Mad was "naughty.”
I don't know what she saw in that magazine at some point in the past, but she
definitely didn't like it. She'd check the titles before we went through our drugstore (Hooks) checkout and would not, under any circumstances, let us buy an issue of Mad magazine.
I remember those Vitamin Cs that
Grandma used to give out (and she would encourage you to take several) that
were supposed to help make you healthier. They tasted a lot like Sweet Tarts.
We'd often drop by Dairy Queen and
she'd say, "If you're good, I'll get you a Mr. Misty; you can have any
flavor except for red.” When asked why we couldn't get a red one, she said it’s
because, "red makes kids hyper.” I’m Surprised Grandma didn't start
an organization called GARP - Grandmas
Against Red Pop.
She was also always predicting a
HORRIBLE winter. She would say, "some lady says..."
Thanks for talking about Grandma
Gilliom on here. I checked the board last night before I went to bed and last
night I had a dream about her. Her hair was perfect.
Does anyone else remember seeing
Grandma without her hair piece? She'd comb her hair out all crazy just before
an appointment. I didn't see her like that very often, and it scared me to
death.
Yeah! She looked wild without her
wig on! Like a whole different person - an old witch! Her wig made her look
much more poised and civilized.
Grandma Hazel used to whip up huge
batches of caramel popcorn in the kitchen sink – she’d make caramel popcorn
balls out of it. It was always a huge event when she’d do that.
I think we Gillioms have a special
love for McDonalds due to Grandma Hazel. How many times she took Adam and me to
Mikky Dees I couldn't tell you. but each time I was just as excited as the
first time. That's what Happy Meals do to you. Ya know, I still order a good
Happy Meal every now and then depending on how hungry I am.
Hazel used to LOVE McDonald's ice
cream cones. She'd go there specifically for an ice cream cone. Breakfast too.
Nowadays, I'm a big fan of the breakfast sandwich, but with Hazel we'd get the
sit-down meals. Hazel wasn't one to eat on the run.
I remember when Grandma lived at
Capri Meadows and you could see McDonald's from her window. Sometimes, when it was
kind of late and we were thinking about making an ice cream cone run, she would
tell me to, "check and see if the golden arches are lit up."
When she moved to the next place,
we could actually WALK to McD's! That was even better. Vanilla ice cream cones
and late night Skip-Bo...that brings back memories.
I think she quit cooking after she
moved to the apartment. I remember
walking to McDonalds and Dairy Queen after that. She was big on
DQ banana splits.
walking to McDonalds and Dairy Queen after that. She was big on
DQ banana splits.
Yeah - I remember her having meals
delivered by the "Schwann Man" when she was living at the apartment.
She was delighted by how good the food was.
I remember Dad saying he was in
McDonalds with Grandma Hazel one time and she exclaimed (real loud like she
did), "There sure are a lot of black people in here”! Dad was real embarrassed and told her firmly,
"Mom, if you don't settle down, I'm going to leave.” Grandma responded,
"Well...There are!”
Grandma Gilliom was usually a
really good cook. Her pancakes were excellent, but when it came to eggs, she
always cooked the yolks really hard and you couldn't dip them. Uncle Jon and
Uncle Rick used to comment a lot about, "mom's eggs."
For breakfast, I remember Grandma
used to make us chocolate chip pancakes at the trailer.
And peanut butter spread on hot
toast. That's another thing she got me into.
I love peanut butter on toast. I
always thought it was weird when she did it, but it goes so well with coffee.
Remember when egg McMuffins first
came out and Hazel decided to make them herself at home?
I was amazed at that. The McMuffin seemed like such a
new thing and here Grandma Hazel mimics it instantly. I probably just wasn't
familiar with English muffins at that point in time, so I was amazed that she
made them just like McDonalds. I guess I thought if she made them at home, she
would have to use bread or buns or something. They were an immediate favorite. She
made those for years.
Remember when she used to make
those doughnuts out of canned biscuits? A few years ago I called Mom and said,
"I miss Grandma Gilliom. I think it's high time the great grandchildren
experience her doughnuts." I can't say that the girls were terribly
impressed.
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Wednesday, April 15, 2020
Uncle Rog's Cottage
[Compiled from various posts on the Gilliomville message board, contributed by various Gillioms and Franks]:
When it rained at Uncle Rog's, the girls would go shopping. I remember one year I got new nail polish, and Aunt Elva let me paint her fingernails hot pink. I thought she was the coolest old lady ever.
One time the family was all out at Rog’s cottage and young Rick (about 13 years old) got into Rog's booze and ended up very drunk.
Remember the time at the lake when Nick hooked Aunt Vi in the middle of the forehead [with a fishing hook] and she had to walk around with a hook in there for several hours until they found a doctor to take it out?
I remember mostly loads and loads of jello cubes and as much soda pop as we wanted. There was that outdoor built-in cooler with running water inside, keeping a constant cool temperature. It was like, "wow...we can just keep going back for more...even if we aren't thirsty...They NEVER run out!!!" I'm glad I wasn't footing the soda bill.
I remember all of us licking the jello cubes and trying to stick them on windows. It was kind of gross re-licking them after they fell off, they were all dirty and stuff.
Q: Who was that Aunt who made the really good cinnamon rolls at Uncle Rog's cottage?
A: It was Aunt Elva. She also made wonderful potato salad.
A: It was Aunt Elva. She also made wonderful potato salad.
When it rained at Uncle Rog's, the girls would go shopping. I remember one year I got new nail polish, and Aunt Elva let me paint her fingernails hot pink. I thought she was the coolest old lady ever.
One time the family was all out at Rog’s cottage and young Rick (about 13 years old) got into Rog's booze and ended up very drunk.
Remember the time at the lake when Nick hooked Aunt Vi in the middle of the forehead [with a fishing hook] and she had to walk around with a hook in there for several hours until they found a doctor to take it out?
I remember mostly loads and loads of jello cubes and as much soda pop as we wanted. There was that outdoor built-in cooler with running water inside, keeping a constant cool temperature. It was like, "wow...we can just keep going back for more...even if we aren't thirsty...They NEVER run out!!!" I'm glad I wasn't footing the soda bill.
I remember all of us licking the jello cubes and trying to stick them on windows. It was kind of gross re-licking them after they fell off, they were all dirty and stuff.
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Monday, April 13, 2020
Christmas Caroling, 1991
In 1991, Janel and Brandon joined
Todd, Jonnie, and Mel on a spur of the moment Christmas Caroling spree throughout Columbia City. The greatest thing
about this night was the fact it was unplanned and entirely spontaneous. We were knocking on people’s doors and sharing the yuletide spirit with friends and strangers alike.
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Christmas Caroling, 1991. |
The only outsider account I’ve
heard regarding this night came from an acquaintance that lived in an apartment complex we had visited. They did not answer the door when we knocked, but we sang gloriously
in the corridors of the apartment building anyway. We later asked this person why they
weren’t home and they replied, “I was home. I was actually sleeping. I
remember hearing what sounded like a bunch of drunks singing, Here comes Santa Claus, Here comes Santa
Claus in deep voices outside. I did not answer the door and tried to go
back to sleep.”
Once we had visited everybody in our immediate vicinity, we piled into a car and drove to the center of town where we
spread joy to a handful of other homes and to the local Pizza King. The last house we visited had a full-blown Christmas
party in effect! We went in for some
punch, Brandon
spilled his all over the table, and then we left.
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Friday, April 10, 2020
Gilliom Heritage, pt. 2
[Compiled from various posts on the Gilliomville message board, contributed by various Gillioms and Franks]:
Here’s how I understand my lineage - I am Todd, son of Jon, son of John, son of Orel, son of Isaac, son of Abraham, son of Adam.
They had a game of hide and seek in the basement consisting of hiding and then
the seeker would heat up a nail red hot on the coal stove and with a pair of
pliers start poking into the corners trying to find a body.
Grandpa [John] Gilliom and some of his friends used to play a game which involved drinking a laxative. The general idea was to see who could be the last man holding it, but they learned real quick it was a better trick to go in the bathroom first, lock the door, and hole up. We asked Alvin Gerber and Uncle Rog about it, but they denied involvement pretty quick.
The story
of the mink in the tile is quite clear in my mind. Dad always told the story,
but I heard it straight from Uncle Ralph. The boys saw a mink on the way to
school and chased it into a tile. Someone guarded the tile and someone else went
home for traps. Uncle Ralph was the master trapper. He exposed a trap at the
entrance to the tile. The second trap was cleverly concealed behind the first.
The mink later saw the first trap and jumped over it. The mink landed with both
front feet in the concealed trap. The story was always told with Ralph being
quite the hero.
At recess, some of the boys started chasing and teasing a skunk and ended up getting sprayed and sent home.
No, it was not a dream. I hated that dog. I remember we had Pug at Raymond Miller's farm. He was given to us with pedigree papers and all. He was a registered Boston Terrier. He used to go out in the pig lot and eat pig shit and then throw up in the yard and on the side walk. I used to wear shorts in the summer and he would bite me. He would just break the skin, but would leave big bruises. Don't you remember it? He used to bite you too. I remember the time he was barking at the cows and the whole herd stampeded, after him. Do you remember that? We lived in Vera Cruz, when he was chained on the clothes line run and got tangled up and hung himself one night. I never shed a tear. I hate pug-nose dogs of any kind to this day.
Here’s how I understand my lineage - I am Todd, son of Jon, son of John, son of Orel, son of Isaac, son of Abraham, son of Adam.
Uncle
Ralph was able to speak and read German during WWII. While stationed in Germany,
he spent the night with a female circus performer, “to watch over her tigers.”
Jon, do you ever remember dad telling about working in the hay mow and
one of the brothers was to come up to help him?
Before the brother came up, he threw the pitch fork into the mow and it
ended up stuck in the calf of dad’s leg.
Grandpa [John] Gilliom and some of his friends used to play a game which involved drinking a laxative. The general idea was to see who could be the last man holding it, but they learned real quick it was a better trick to go in the bathroom first, lock the door, and hole up. We asked Alvin Gerber and Uncle Rog about it, but they denied involvement pretty quick.
The story
of the liquid laxative is Gospel according to dad. He told me that story so
many times that I know it is true. He laughed so hard when telling it. He got
the biggest kick about someone wising up and going into the bathroom first and
taking up stool space. I asked Rog about it a few years ago and he played
totally stupid. He tried to pass it off as being dad and Alvin. I wish dad was
alive to refresh some minds.
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Grandpa John, Son of Orel and father of Nancy, Jon, and Rick. |
At recess, some of the boys started chasing and teasing a skunk and ended up getting sprayed and sent home.
Jon, do you remember a bull dog we had (I think it might have been when
we lived in Vera Cruz) and we tied it to the clothes line and he hung himself?
I surely didn't dream that, did I?
No, it was not a dream. I hated that dog. I remember we had Pug at Raymond Miller's farm. He was given to us with pedigree papers and all. He was a registered Boston Terrier. He used to go out in the pig lot and eat pig shit and then throw up in the yard and on the side walk. I used to wear shorts in the summer and he would bite me. He would just break the skin, but would leave big bruises. Don't you remember it? He used to bite you too. I remember the time he was barking at the cows and the whole herd stampeded, after him. Do you remember that? We lived in Vera Cruz, when he was chained on the clothes line run and got tangled up and hung himself one night. I never shed a tear. I hate pug-nose dogs of any kind to this day.
John had a maiden Aunt. Aunt Sarah. She was Grandma Gilliom's sister. She
made her home with Grandma & Grandpa. Those of you who remember mom know
she did not take criticism well and being ordered around by other people even
worse. She wanted to call Jon, "Barry," and
Aunt Sarah did not like the idea one bit. Mom said if it had to be John, at least she would spell it the way
she wanted to. Hence, the "Jon."
Dad used to get pissed off that Grandma wanted to name him Barry. He hates that name. I imagine he's over it by now, because he hasn't mentioned it in about 20 years. Maybe it's just too sore a topic.
Dad used to get pissed off that Grandma wanted to name him Barry. He hates that name. I imagine he's over it by now, because he hasn't mentioned it in about 20 years. Maybe it's just too sore a topic.
I was
going through photos here and found an autobiography Uncle Jon wrote for a
class in grade school. It was a fun read - he said when he grew up, he
wanted to be a barber, "so I can meet a lot of new people in a
well-ventilated shop.”
Q: To all relation of Gilliom roots: Are we French? Folks think my last name is French??? Are we French ... Guys I have to know. It’s really been bothering me. Yes or no - is this true?
A: No, we are not French. Basically we are Swiss. I think there was a French Grandmother somewhere back there but Grandma Gilliom and all the Aunts and Uncles spoke Swiss. Mom (Grandma Hazel) could not understand Swiss so when we were at Grandma's everyone would speak English.
Q: To all relation of Gilliom roots: Are we French? Folks think my last name is French??? Are we French ... Guys I have to know. It’s really been bothering me. Yes or no - is this true?
A: No, we are not French. Basically we are Swiss. I think there was a French Grandmother somewhere back there but Grandma Gilliom and all the Aunts and Uncles spoke Swiss. Mom (Grandma Hazel) could not understand Swiss so when we were at Grandma's everyone would speak English.
"Gilliom" does sound French. Uncle Jon says we were based in Alsace-Lorraine for some years. Alsace-Lorraine
went back and forth between German and French occupation. We could've picked up
a French spelling of the name there. I'm not sure where all that fits in the
timeline though.
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Wednesday, April 8, 2020
Gilliom Heritage, pt. 1
[Compiled from various posts on the Gilliomville message board, contributed by various Gillioms and Franks]:
It was all started back in the old country of Switzerland by Adam Gilliom (who my
[Rick’s] Adam was named after). Adam’s wife's last name was
Roetlishbarger. They had a son John, whose wife's name was Elizabeth Schneck. John and Elizabeth had two
sons named Christian and Abraham, who came to America in 1823. Abraham Gilliom
was born on Mount Munster , Canton ,
Bern Switzerland Sept.14, 1811. At the age of 12, he and his family immigrated
to Wayne County, Ohio. Isaac was born in Ohio.
While the era of the horse-drawn wagon is indisputably over, I am proud to be of a line to stick with them even into the era when it was dangerous to do so. God bless Great Uncle Obed!
I don't mean to make light of Gillioms' past tragedies, but personally, I always thought a horse would be a safer way to get around drunk. On one hand, I hate to hear about folks dying no matter how it happens, but on the other hand, something about Obed's departure sounds so close to home -- almost predictable.
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The Old Gilliom Farm House. Photo courtesy of Ross Frank. |
They moved outside of Vera Cruz between 1845 and 1847 to a farm of about
330 acres which the present Harold Isch was part of. Isaac married Melanie
Hanny. She was born in Canton , Bern
Switzerland
on May 3, 1836. She came to America
in 1844 with her family. They were French. I met a strange little photographer in
Sedona AZ
when I was running my meat route and when I told him my name was Gilliom, he
said. “You’re Swiss.” He said our family name is a "registered name"
in Bern Switzerland and that it was a Swiss
Gov thing. Possible cause: the Swiss Gov taxes everything!!
He also told me that "Canton "
was or is another name for mountain. With Switzerland a neutral Country, many
people were there from many other countries: France ,
Germany ,
Italy etc. I don't know why our name is registered...if we were within the law
or outlaws and just a bunch of German hillbillies. This is from a family tree
written by Grandpa Orel. Aunt Dula lent me copy back in 1986 or ‘87 and I
haven't kept it up to date. I think I gave Jon a copy.
Isaac Gilliom, 1833-1873 was the first Gilliom that belonged to the Apostolic Church. I have no idea what religion they were
in Switzerland . Isaac had a brother, Jacob, who went West in 1854 and was never heard
from again.
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Orel Gilliom. |
I was talking to Uncle Roy last Sunday and he told me a good story about great
grandpa Orel .
When Orel decided to ask for his first wife's hand in marriage, he followed the
church's tradition of visiting the church elder to request a proposal be sent
to his prospective wife. Apparently when he did, the elder said, "Well, my
Lizzie has feelings for you.” So Orel
married Lizzie instead of the person he originally had intended to ask for. I guess sometimes a sure thing is better than a chance of first choice.
The spelling of "Orel " has been
corrected [changed from “Oral”] in Gilliomville’s
online photo gallery.
The spelling of "
I did a genealogy project in college. Cousin Carol from Michigan told Mom that Peter Meyer met his
wife at a square dance when his fiddle got caught in her skirt. Sounds
scandalous to me.
I think it was Grandpa Ed and Grandma Flonie that
meet at the square dance. (Now there is a name for someone in the family to
carry on - Little Flonie Fern).
There was an Obed, son of Orel .
Obed was John's brother that was killed in a wagon/car accident in his late
20's. Obed was in the wagon and the car hit him. Some of the family were on
their way to the hospital and had an accident themselves. I have no idea who was
driving but I know Aunt Vi had a head injury and was unconscious for several
days.
Ask Kenny Gilliom about the story about the car wreck, I think he was thrown through the window. And Ralph was driving, "after a night at the Bluffton Street Fair."
Ask Kenny Gilliom about the story about the car wreck, I think he was thrown through the window. And Ralph was driving, "after a night at the Bluffton Street Fair."
While the era of the horse-drawn wagon is indisputably over, I am proud to be of a line to stick with them even into the era when it was dangerous to do so. God bless Great Uncle Obed!
I don't mean to make light of Gillioms' past tragedies, but personally, I always thought a horse would be a safer way to get around drunk. On one hand, I hate to hear about folks dying no matter how it happens, but on the other hand, something about Obed's departure sounds so close to home -- almost predictable.
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